Car Talk

 

“What do you hope to get from this visit?”

This was the introductory question a physician asked me when I first met him.

I prioritized my goals and started a brief narrative. And away we went to the races.

The more I thought about this simple question, the more brilliant I thought it.

First, it sets a tone that my priorities are important, and a successful visit will be my determination, not the doctor’s. So, find out what matters the most to me.

Next, the question’s subtext is there is not enough time today to deal with every potential problem under the sun. So, let’s deal with the most important ones. Let’s not do a blind man’s walk into uncharted territory.

I contrast this history-gathering to an interview a medical student did just prior to the attending entering. The student was trying to stick to a mental script to make sure no details were missed. It was entry level chess compared to the attending’s grandmaster status. The medical student will acquire these skills over time. But, it takes time. There’s no easy way to learn this path. Still, I think this question, “What do you hope to get from this visit?” is also a great teaching tool.

Making a good diagnosis is the foundation of successful treatment.

Dr. Gurpeet Dhaliwal, a professor of medicine at UCSF, teaches medical students about the problem-solving process used in the NPR radio show, Car Talk. He applies the wisdom of Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers, to medical students teaching them to diagnose disease.

“I would listen to their podcast every weekend,” Dhaliwal explains. “One day I said to myself, ‘My goodness, these guys are doing the same job I have.’ They collect the data, define the problem, and pick from several solutions. That’s essentially what a doctor does.”

First off, the caller describes his or her car troubles. Dhaliwal will ask students, “what is the core problem they’re trying to solve?” Dhaliwal explains.

In one Car Talk “case,” the problem was a 1994 Chevy Lumina making a chugging sound going uphill.

Then, Ray and Tom take a history.

“It’s an old car with 150,000 miles on it,” Dhaliwal explains. “The major problem when you’re chugging up the hill is you’re not getting enough fuel at a very peak demand.”

Lastly, the brothers present a potential fix.

“They realize there’s only two plausible solutions,” Dhaliwal says. “Either there’s a dirty fuel filter or there’s some bad spark plugs.”

That step-by-step process, Dhaliwal says, is exactly what his students need to do in the clinic.

Identify the make and model, i.e., the core problem. Take a history. Consider plausible hypotheses for the solution.

Dhaliwal explains how it might work with a human subject.

“This looks like a healthy 25-year-old man with a cough,” he says. “They have to trigger possible solutions for that. Could it be pneumonia? Could it be a simple virus? Could it be something as serious as tuberculosis? And as they get more data, they ultimately have to make a call and say which one of those things is most likely.”

It’s not just Ray and Tom’s reasoning skills that Dhaliwal admires. One other thing he teaches budding physicians to emulate is their ability to build rapport, with cheerfulness, kindness, and humility.

And Click and Clack had to make the diagnosis in minutes. Just like a doctor. And they had to keep the audience engaged – or the show never would have survived.

Of course, doctors don’t need to emulate all details of Click and Clack’s diagnostic process.

Dr. Gregory Brisson wrote an essay in Family Medicine:

“They would say things like, ‘If you get in that car and drive it before you get the wheel bearings checked, you’re gonna die! You don’t want to say things like that when you’re meeting with your patients.”

Most physicians do not remember their first history and physicals. If we had videotapes of them, we’d cringe. Perhaps we blocked them out. “What do you hope to get from this visit?” may make that painful educational process less onerous.

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Dr. Segal received his M.D. from Baylor College of Medicine, where he also completed a neurosurgical residency. Dr. Segal served as a Spinal Surgery Fellow at The University of South Florida Medical School. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa as well as the AOA Medical Honor Society. Dr. Segal received his B.A. from the University of Texas and graduated with a J.D. from Concord Law School with highest honors.

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