How Can Compounding Pharmacies Sell GLP-1 Agonists without Running Afoul of the FDA?

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Semaglutide is a GLP-1 agonist (glucagon-like peptide 1), marketed by Novo Nordisk as Wegovy for weight loss and Ozempic for type 2 diabetes.

To say these medications are popular is an understatement. Novo Nordisk cannot keep up with demand. The same goes for Eli Lilly that markets tirsepatide (Zepbound for weight loss and Monjaro for type 2 diabetes.

The FDA publishes a drug shortage list. That list currently has 131 entries. It includes atropine sulfate injection, cefotaxime injection, and lidocaine injection. Drugs go in and out of this list. For example, the shortage of mannitol was resolved. Same with mepivacaine injection.

If a medication is on this list, federal law allows compounding pharmacies to make “essentially a copy.”

Semaglutide and tirzepatide are currently on that list. This allows compounding pharmacies to get in the game. But not without limitations.

The FDA sent warning letters to some entities selling compounds with similar sounding names – but a different compound. Such as semaglutide sodium salt. The sodium salt is probably effective, but that’s not how it was tested to gain FDA-approval. And there are some entities, particularly online, selling complete fakes.

But there are legal versions of GLP-1 agonists medications that can be and are purchased from reputable compounding pharmacies; pharmacies that follow state and federal laws, and only dispense via a health care provider prescription.

Some background. Compounding pharmacies come in two varieties. 503 A and 503 B.

503 A pharmacies are state licensed pharmacies and physicians.

503 B pharmacies are federally regulated outsourcing facilities regulated by the FDA.

The 503 B regulations emerged after 2012 meningitis / epidural abscess outbreak connected to compounded epidural steroid injections. 503 B pharmacies address medications for IV or intrathecal use.

Semaglutide is injected subcutaneously, so it does not require 503 B scrutiny.

The compounding pharmacies must obtain the active ingredients from FDA-registered facilities, which adhere to Current Good Manufacturing Practices (cGMP). This secures quality, efficacy, and safety.

So, the compounded versions are not “FDA approved.” But they are “FDA-allowed” as long as the medications are on the shortage list. And as long as the compounding pharmacy follows a number of rules.

Note, GLP-1 agonists can be addressed by either 503A or 503B compounding pharmacies. Notably, a 503 B pharmacy has an additional layer of regulation (by the FDA) and may provide an additional level of quality assurance.

What else can prescribing physicians do (or patients request)? They can request a Certificate of Analysis from the compounding pharmacy. This ensures the compound is what it purports to be. 

Also, some nomenclature. Some entities are marketing generic semaglutide. Generic semaglutide does not yet exist on the market. (A generic drug is one whose original patents have expired, allowing third parties to manufacture and sell it – the semaglutide patents and the others are still very much in force).

How is this stuff actually made?

Actual semaglutide for human use, as furnished by Novo Nordisk, is produced by first engineering yeast cells to make the underlying peptide. That product is quite similar to naturally occurring GLP-1, but with some key modifications. The first six amino acids at the N-terminus of GLP-1 are gone, and the alanine at position 8 is changed to the unnatural dimethyl version (Aib, 2-aminoisobutyric acid) – that’s to prevent enzymatic breakdown by the DPP-IV enzyme in vivo. A lysine at position 28 is switched out for an arginine, which leaves another lysine at position 26 free to be modified with a long fatty-acid/ethylene glyol-like chain, which improves the drug’s half-life in the blood even more (by binding to serum albumin). That side-chain modification is done chemically after purifying the underlying peptide from the fermentation step, and you can be sure that that process, along with the yeast expression DNA sequence, the fermentation conditions, and the purification steps have been pretty well tuned up by the Novo Nordisk folks. 

It’s certainly not an impossible process to duplicate, but it’s not a casual synthesis either, and you wouldn’t try it without the financial motivations that we see at the moment. And there are other ways to make the drug, likely somewhat more expensive or harder to scale, at least for now, as a look at the patent literature will show you. You don’t have to do the fermentation, for example, since peptides of this size can be made by straight synthesis, but if I were frantically trying to supply my most profitable product at the largest scale available I would certainly want cultured cells doing as much of the work as possible. I don’t know who’s making the sodium salt form or what process they’re using, although it’s surely very close to the regular semaglutide routes. 

The compounding pharmacy workaround to address a medication shortage is helpful, as long as it’s done properly. Derek Lowe, writing on science.org, summarized the conundrum eloquently.

So it’s a confusing landscape out there. My guess is that a significant amount of the stuff coming from the compounding pharmacies is not quite Ozempic, since there’s not enough of that to go around at the moment, and in some cases it may be even worse than that. There is truly no way for the patients involved to know what they’re getting in such cases, which is where the libertarian “let ’em try it” position starts to break down. The barriers to verification by the end users are just too high, which is why we have the bureaucratic, expensive, often infuriating supply chain regulations that we have. Because the alternative is you pay someone to send you a syringe full of stuff – cloudy, maybe a slightly different color than the last one, and with a different return address on the package this time – and you roll up your shirt and inject it under your skin anyway. And you see what happens.

What do you think?

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We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

Jeffrey Segal, MD, JD

Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Dr. Jeffrey Segal, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Medical Justice, is a board-certified neurosurgeon. Dr. Segal is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons; the American College of Legal Medicine; and the American Association of Neurological Surgeons. He is also a member of the North American Spine Society. In the process of conceiving, funding, developing, and growing Medical Justice, Dr. Segal has established himself as one of the country’s leading authorities on medical malpractice issues, counterclaims, and internet-based assaults on reputation.

Dr. Segal was a practicing neurosurgeon for approximately ten years, during which time he also played an active role as a participant on various state-sanctioned medical review panels designed to decrease the incidence of meritless medical malpractice cases.

Dr. Segal holds a M.D. from Baylor College of Medicine, where he also completed a neurosurgical residency. Dr. Segal served as a Spinal Surgery Fellow at The University of South Florida Medical School. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa as well as the AOA Medical Honor Society. Dr. Segal received his B.A. from the University of Texas and graduated with a J.D. from Concord Law School with highest honors.

In 2000, he co-founded and served as CEO of DarPharma, Inc, a biotechnology company in Chapel Hill, NC, focused on the discovery and development of first-of-class pharmaceuticals for neuropsychiatric disorders.

Dr. Segal is also a partner at Byrd Adatto, a national business and health care law firm. Byrd Adatto was selected as a Best Law Firm in the 2023 edition of the “Best Law Firms” list by U.S. News – Best Lawyers. With over 50 combined years of experience in serving doctors, dentists, and other providers, Byrd Adatto has a national pedigree to address most legal issues that arise in the business and practice of medicine.

Not Your Everyday Informed Consent Challenge

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

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We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

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In case you missed this archived case report from Leentjens AFG, et al. Manipulation of mental competence: an ethical problem in case of electrical stimulation of the subthalamic nucleus for severe Parkinson’s disease. Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd. 2004 Jul 10;148(28):1394-8. Assuming you speak fluent Dutch.

A patient with severe Parkinson’s disease failed traditional treatments. He was bedridden, captive to a serious movement disorder. As a last resort, his physicians inserted electrodes in his subthalamic nuclei and initiated deep brain stimulation.

Three years later, he was admitted to a facility to address stimulation manic episode. This behavior did not respond to mood stabilization agents. He experienced “chaotic behavior, megalomania, serious financial debts, and mental incompetence.” The symptoms are not dissimilar to reports of hypomanic or even manic behavior from dopamine D2 and D3 agonists, such as ropinirole. From the American Journal of Psychiatry:

In clinical trials, the dopamine agonist ropinirole has produced hallucinations and confusion rated as mild. We provide evidence here that ropinirole may induce or exacerbate severe, acute psychosis in a patient without Parkinson’s disease. This case is not conclusive in part because of the use of quetiapine. However, the rapidity and degree of improvement weigh in favor of a strong role for ropinirole, and the likelihood of such an effect with this medication stands to reason. Given the recognized relationship of dopaminergic function to psychosis, best known through the strong antipsychotic effects of dopamine antagonists, such an effect of exacerbating psychosis by a dopamine agonist seems almost predictable. We suggest that ropinirole, like all other dopaminergic agents, be used with caution in psychotic patients and those vulnerable to psychosis.

In managing dopamine agonist psychosis or mania, changing the dose of the medication may mitigate the effects. Adding an anti-psychotic agent may also soften the suboptimal outcome.

In the case report, there was no therapeutic margin between the two states – (a) alleviation of Parkinson’s symptoms but associated with mania and/or psychosis, versus (b) normophoric state with return of capacity of judgment and insight, but with significant exacerbation of motor symptoms, leaving him bedridden.

The question was which of these two states was preferable. To the patient, there was no middle ground.

The patient’s doctors concluded that only with the stimulator turned off was the patient competent to make an informed decision. Meaning, his doctors posed the question of preference with the stimulator off; in the normophoric, bedridden state.

The patient’s verdict –  he preferred to be admitted to a psychiatric ward in a chronic manic state. There, he’d have acceptable motor function and reasonable activities of daily living. He shunned the option of normal cognitive / mood function at the expense of being bedridden.

Mental competence and informed consent can be affected by our treatments. If treatment is clouding judgment, the patient as a participant in his decision-making should be afforded the opportunity to have that cloud lifted, even if his final decision is to let the cloud return.

The patient in this case lived in and was treated in the Netherlands. It’s possible that the process and outcome in the United States would have been different.

What do you think?

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We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

Jeffrey Segal, MD, JD

Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Dr. Jeffrey Segal, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Medical Justice, is a board-certified neurosurgeon. Dr. Segal is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons; the American College of Legal Medicine; and the American Association of Neurological Surgeons. He is also a member of the North American Spine Society. In the process of conceiving, funding, developing, and growing Medical Justice, Dr. Segal has established himself as one of the country’s leading authorities on medical malpractice issues, counterclaims, and internet-based assaults on reputation.

Dr. Segal was a practicing neurosurgeon for approximately ten years, during which time he also played an active role as a participant on various state-sanctioned medical review panels designed to decrease the incidence of meritless medical malpractice cases.

Dr. Segal holds a M.D. from Baylor College of Medicine, where he also completed a neurosurgical residency. Dr. Segal served as a Spinal Surgery Fellow at The University of South Florida Medical School. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa as well as the AOA Medical Honor Society. Dr. Segal received his B.A. from the University of Texas and graduated with a J.D. from Concord Law School with highest honors.

In 2000, he co-founded and served as CEO of DarPharma, Inc, a biotechnology company in Chapel Hill, NC, focused on the discovery and development of first-of-class pharmaceuticals for neuropsychiatric disorders.

Dr. Segal is also a partner at Byrd Adatto, a national business and health care law firm. Byrd Adatto was selected as a Best Law Firm in the 2023 edition of the “Best Law Firms” list by U.S. News – Best Lawyers. With over 50 combined years of experience in serving doctors, dentists, and other providers, Byrd Adatto has a national pedigree to address most legal issues that arise in the business and practice of medicine.

Can a Lawyer Threaten to Report You to Board of Medicine if You Don’t Write a Check?

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

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We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

Some letters from attorneys are crisp, concise, and to the point. They allege you did something negligent. They want a check. If you don’t deliver said check, they will sue you. Linear and algorithmic.

Then you have to analyze your real as well as practical liability.

Were you negligent? Did the patient have a bad outcome even though you performed at the standard of care? How big is the check demanded versus the amount of time you’ll invest defending the case? What will legal fees be if you pay out of pocket? Is the demand more in small-claims territory or one your carrier would address?

Some attorneys believe that just threatening to sue you is insufficient. They really want to squeeze you. They might add a paragraph on the bottom that states if the matter can’t be amicably settled within two weeks, they will file a complaint to the Board of Medicine. One problem just multiplied into two.

Are lawyers allowed to do that? Well, no.

We’ll use California as a prototypical example. Pull out your dusty copy of California Rules of Professional Conduct. These are the ethical tenets California lawyers agree to abide by.

Rule 3.10 Threatening Criminal, Administrative, or Disciplinary Charges

(a) A lawyer shall not threaten to present criminal, administrative, or disciplinary charges to obtain an advantage in a civil dispute.

(b) As used in paragraph (a) of this rule, the term “administrative charges” means the filing or lodging of a complaint with any governmental organization that may order or recommend the loss or suspension of a license, or may impose or recommend the imposition of a fine, pecuniary sanction, or other sanction of a quasi-criminal nature but does not include filing charges with an administrative entity required by law as a condition precedent to maintaining a civil action.

(c) As used in this rule, the term “civil dispute” means a controversy or potential controversy over the rights and duties of two or more persons* under civil law, whether or not an action has been commenced, and includes an administrative proceeding of a quasi-civil nature pending before a federal, state, or local governmental entity.

The lawyer can actually file the Board complaint behind the scenes. That is not prohibited. Even if the complaint does have the incidental effect of obtaining an advantage in a civil dispute. But he cannot threaten to file a complaint to add visible pressure to settle a case. 

An attorney making the threat is subject to disciplinary action, including disbarment.

Going into the time machine, the seminal case addressing this issue was Crane v. State Farm of California 30 Cal.3d 117 (1981). In that case, the Rule was 7-104, which morphed into a later rule 5-100, which morphed into the current rule 3.10. But the gist is the same.

An attorney sent a letter to the opposing side stating that if certain information was not received within five days, suit would be instituted and “the Department of Savings and Loan and the Attorney General’s Office will be requested to assist us in solution.” (Id. at 121.)

A notation on the letter indicated that copies were being sent to a named deputy attorney general and a named commissioner of the Department of Savings and Loan. The California Supreme Court concluded that when the facts were viewed from the perspective of the recipient of the letter “and considered in context,” including the notation that copies of the letter were sent to government agencies, the letter “could quite reasonably be construed as violative of rule 7-104.”

Various Bar Associations in California have disseminated the memo, advising against making threats.

“The import of Crane is that a threat to present charges need not be expressly stated in words of a threatening nature, but may be inferred from the circumstances; and, that the innocent subjective intent of the maker of the statement is not a relevant factor. If the statement can be reasonably interpreted as a threat to present criminal, administrative or disciplinary charges, in the context of a civil dispute, that is sufficient to constitute a violation of Rule 5-100(A).” (Los Angeles County Bar Ass’n Formal Op. No. 469 (1993). See Cal. State Bar Formal Op. No. 1989106; Cal. State Bar Formal Op. No. 198373.)

Following Crane, California ethics opinions have cautioned that even a communication by an attorney to the opposing side mentioning that he or his client will present a criminal, administrative or disciplinary charge against the opposing party or attorney can be interpreted as a threat under rule 5-100.

For example, if an attorney informs opposing counsel that his client intends to file an administrative complaint, “there is a definite risk that such a statement may be interpreted as an implied or veiled threat” prohibited by rule 5-100. (Cal. State Bar Formal Op. No. 198373.)

Does a lawsuit have to be filed for these rules to be applicable? No. The filing of a civil action is not a prerequisite to the applicability of Rule 3.10 or any of its predecessors.

“As used in this rule, the term “civil dispute” means a controversy or potential controversy over the rights and duties of two or more persons under civil law, whether or not an action has been commenced.

So, lawyers are within their ethical obligations to threaten non-frivolous litigation. They are within their rights to threaten litigation and incidentally file a Board complaint. They breach their ethical obligations if they threaten litigation and threaten to file a Board complaint if you don’t quickly settle.

What do you think?

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

"Can Medical Justice solve my problem?" Click here to review recent consultations...

We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

Jeffrey Segal, MD, JD

Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Dr. Jeffrey Segal, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Medical Justice, is a board-certified neurosurgeon. Dr. Segal is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons; the American College of Legal Medicine; and the American Association of Neurological Surgeons. He is also a member of the North American Spine Society. In the process of conceiving, funding, developing, and growing Medical Justice, Dr. Segal has established himself as one of the country’s leading authorities on medical malpractice issues, counterclaims, and internet-based assaults on reputation.

Dr. Segal was a practicing neurosurgeon for approximately ten years, during which time he also played an active role as a participant on various state-sanctioned medical review panels designed to decrease the incidence of meritless medical malpractice cases.

Dr. Segal holds a M.D. from Baylor College of Medicine, where he also completed a neurosurgical residency. Dr. Segal served as a Spinal Surgery Fellow at The University of South Florida Medical School. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa as well as the AOA Medical Honor Society. Dr. Segal received his B.A. from the University of Texas and graduated with a J.D. from Concord Law School with highest honors.

In 2000, he co-founded and served as CEO of DarPharma, Inc, a biotechnology company in Chapel Hill, NC, focused on the discovery and development of first-of-class pharmaceuticals for neuropsychiatric disorders.

Dr. Segal is also a partner at Byrd Adatto, a national business and health care law firm. Byrd Adatto was selected as a Best Law Firm in the 2023 edition of the “Best Law Firms” list by U.S. News – Best Lawyers. With over 50 combined years of experience in serving doctors, dentists, and other providers, Byrd Adatto has a national pedigree to address most legal issues that arise in the business and practice of medicine.

Lingering Timebombs with Medical Marketing Campaigns

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

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We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

We all wish 100% of our patients were satisfied with their outcomes 100% of the time. Nobody will beat us up harder than we beat ourselves up. Still, all practices have patients where the relationship soured. Your paths parted. They either ended up in a different practice. Or no practice at all. But they were out of your practice.

Then…

You hire a new marketing firm. They outline a marketing campaign with social media, blitzing your past patients and prospects with emails and text messages. They will be using a list transferred from your practice. And hopefully, the agency was deputized with a HIPAA Business Associate Agreement.

If the list is not filtered, the agency will end up marketing to these few patients who have moved on. Painful memories will be triggered. An old scab will be ripped off. And the friction that had abated may be rekindled.

How?

Online reviews and social media.

The patient will recount their unhappy experience for all to read. And they may even add a statement that the practice could not be bothered to avoid marketing to the unhappy few.

This is an unforced error.

You do not have to market to everyone. You want to market to those who are likely to need or use your services. If someone has moved on because they were unhappy, you can attempt “service recovery” near-term. If that fails, it’s a fait accompli.

Do yourself a favor; do this patient a favor. Remove their name from any future marketing list. There is no upside to peppering their inbox with stories of other happy patients.

What do you think?

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

"Can Medical Justice solve my problem?" Click here to review recent consultations...

We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

Jeffrey Segal, MD, JD

Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Dr. Jeffrey Segal, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Medical Justice, is a board-certified neurosurgeon. Dr. Segal is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons; the American College of Legal Medicine; and the American Association of Neurological Surgeons. He is also a member of the North American Spine Society. In the process of conceiving, funding, developing, and growing Medical Justice, Dr. Segal has established himself as one of the country’s leading authorities on medical malpractice issues, counterclaims, and internet-based assaults on reputation.

Dr. Segal was a practicing neurosurgeon for approximately ten years, during which time he also played an active role as a participant on various state-sanctioned medical review panels designed to decrease the incidence of meritless medical malpractice cases.

Dr. Segal holds a M.D. from Baylor College of Medicine, where he also completed a neurosurgical residency. Dr. Segal served as a Spinal Surgery Fellow at The University of South Florida Medical School. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa as well as the AOA Medical Honor Society. Dr. Segal received his B.A. from the University of Texas and graduated with a J.D. from Concord Law School with highest honors.

In 2000, he co-founded and served as CEO of DarPharma, Inc, a biotechnology company in Chapel Hill, NC, focused on the discovery and development of first-of-class pharmaceuticals for neuropsychiatric disorders.

Dr. Segal is also a partner at Byrd Adatto, a national business and health care law firm. Byrd Adatto was selected as a Best Law Firm in the 2023 edition of the “Best Law Firms” list by U.S. News – Best Lawyers. With over 50 combined years of experience in serving doctors, dentists, and other providers, Byrd Adatto has a national pedigree to address most legal issues that arise in the business and practice of medicine.

My Father left me “EVERYTHING” in His Will

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

"Can Medical Justice solve my problem?" Click here to review recent consultations...

We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

 

My father was not a conventionally wealthy man. Not a billionaire. Very few worldly assets. Modest bank account. Still, he had enough to do the things he wanted to do. He lived 94 years on this planet. He lived well.

My mother just opened the safety deposit box and found a handwritten note from my Dad. A message from his grave.

It was titled “Ethical Will.”

I had never heard of an ethical will. Apparently, it’s intended as words of wisdom. Guidance. Words of gratitude. Memories.

Here is what he wrote:

  • Glad you all are married. I hope you will do everything to make your spouses happier and happier as time goes by.
  • Don’t make money your major asset in your lives. Your spouses and your children are your major treasures.
  • Make truth a foundation stone in your life. There is no such thing as a “half-truth” or a “small lie.”
  • Spend time with your spouse and your children. Time goes by too quickly. Before you turn around – it’s gone. Go on dates often with your wives and husband [I have two sister-in laws and one brother-in-law] – not only as part of groups—just the two of you. It will increase your love for each other.
  • Treat your mother well. She is the best of the best. She treated me beyond my wildest hopes – and she was the one who brought you up well. I may have attempted to inculcate wisdom in you, but she gave you common sense, love, affection, and compassion—that so many lack today. She was truly the backbone of our family.
  • Always respect your fellow human beings – because you yourself want to be respected by them.

Simple messages.

Powerful messages.

I have no idea when he wrote this note and popped it into the vault. It had no date. It was intended to be read – and absorbed – after he was gone.

Importantly, he didn’t wait until his death to deliver these words. These were principles that guided his daily life. And my mother and siblings knew it.

I generally use this space to post on the medico-legal world. I made an exception today. I plan to frame a copy of his words and place it on my wall.

What do you think?

Medical Justice provides free consultations to doctors facing medico-legal obstacles. We have solutions for doctor-patient conflicts, unwarranted demands for refunds, online defamation (patient review mischief), meritless litigation, and a gazillion other issues. If you are navigating a medico-legal obstacle, visit our booking page to schedule a free consultation – or use the tool shared below.

"Can Medical Justice solve my problem?" Click here to review recent consultations...

We’ve been protecting doctors from medico-legal threats since 2001. We’ve seen it all. Here’s a sample of typical recent consultation discussions…

  • Former employee stole patient list. Now a competitor…
  • Patient suing doctor in small claims court…
  • Just received board complaint…
  • Allegations of sexual harassment by employee…
  • Patient filed police complaint doctor inappropriately touched her…
  • DEA showed up to my office…
  • Patient “extorting” me. “Pay me or I’ll slam you online.”
  • My carrier wants me to settle. My case is fully defensible…
  • My patient is demanding an unwarranted refund…
  • How do I safely terminate doctor-patient relationship?
  • How to avoid reporting to Data Bank…
  • I want my day in court. But don’t want to risk my nest egg…
  • Hospital wants to fire me…
  • Sham peer review inappropriately limiting privileges…
  • Can I safely use stem cells in my practice?
  • Patient’s results are not what was expected…
  • Just received request for medical records from an attorney…
  • Just received notice of intent to sue…
  • Just received summons for meritless case…
  • Safely responding to negative online reviews…

We challenge you to supply us with a medico-legal obstacle we haven’t seen before. Know you are in good hands. Schedule your consultation below – or click here to visit our booking page.

Jeffrey Segal, MD, JD

Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Dr. Jeffrey Segal, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Medical Justice, is a board-certified neurosurgeon. Dr. Segal is a Fellow of the American College of Surgeons; the American College of Legal Medicine; and the American Association of Neurological Surgeons. He is also a member of the North American Spine Society. In the process of conceiving, funding, developing, and growing Medical Justice, Dr. Segal has established himself as one of the country’s leading authorities on medical malpractice issues, counterclaims, and internet-based assaults on reputation.

Dr. Segal was a practicing neurosurgeon for approximately ten years, during which time he also played an active role as a participant on various state-sanctioned medical review panels designed to decrease the incidence of meritless medical malpractice cases.

Dr. Segal holds a M.D. from Baylor College of Medicine, where he also completed a neurosurgical residency. Dr. Segal served as a Spinal Surgery Fellow at The University of South Florida Medical School. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa as well as the AOA Medical Honor Society. Dr. Segal received his B.A. from the University of Texas and graduated with a J.D. from Concord Law School with highest honors.

In 2000, he co-founded and served as CEO of DarPharma, Inc, a biotechnology company in Chapel Hill, NC, focused on the discovery and development of first-of-class pharmaceuticals for neuropsychiatric disorders.

Dr. Segal is also a partner at Byrd Adatto, a national business and health care law firm. Byrd Adatto was selected as a Best Law Firm in the 2023 edition of the “Best Law Firms” list by U.S. News – Best Lawyers. With over 50 combined years of experience in serving doctors, dentists, and other providers, Byrd Adatto has a national pedigree to address most legal issues that arise in the business and practice of medicine.